Tell us how this cold and flu season has turned into quarantine season for your child at school. How many times has your child been forced to test or be forced to stay home from school?
Absolutely zero times. I have voiced my displeasure and filed OPRA requests many times. My boy walks tall with his mask down and they all just look away. They all fear me like a heart attack and for good reason. Everyone needs to hold their ground.
Hello again. First off, please let me know if I am becoming a pain, I just really am not so sure who to turn to with any of this and to be honest- it is pretty much all your fault! This is what your kindness and savvy know how gets you- a sobbing mom messaging you!!! I really am so sorry to bug you, but we just received a voicemail and two emails from the our son's school alerting us that he will need to provide a negative covid test to return to school next week after the virtual shut down. The one email communication is generic.. the other personal- both identify my son as 'maybe coming in contact with Covid... and as an unvaccinated student... (ie)personal medical information the school has no official documentation for... they are assuming health status and requiring protocols for their assumed info. I find it to be very confusing... and very disturbing. If you have any guidance we would be very grateful.
Please do not feel yourself to be a pain. I meant it when I said to reach out. If you would prefer you can email me at Evk110400@zoho.com. With regard to the question. I would not submit to any forced Covid testing. There is not any test that can determine Covid positive results. The tests that are being used are only detecting the common cold and any dead RNA from previous infections.
The schools are abusing this situation and you should maintain a lock tight grip on your parental rights. Also any assumption on their part is simply that. An assumption! I would demand the delivery of a written letter stating that they are putting unconstitutional stipulations in place as a condition of his schooling that he is entitled too. And make them understand that your son is coming to school irrespective of their outrageous actions. If they deny him entry record it and put them on notice.
This will not stop until they are made to stop. Easy for me too say but not as hard as it appears. Stay strong! Your a great mom.
My 6th grader was quarantined 2 occasions within a week from each other. It was "possible "exposure at lunch table. He was forced to stay out of school with no symptoms for a total of 10 days. This reasoning and direction of NJ schools is absurd and makes no sense.
My 4 year old had to be out 10 days from preschool because of a fever, runny nose and cough. Then she went back for 2 days and got another fever and runny nose. I had to take her for a Covid test or else she would have to be out an additional 10 days. It’s ridiculous and it’s only been common colds.
As of 2:30pm today, Morristown High School (student and staff population est.1600-2000 ppl) shut down in person learning and all extra curricular until Nov. 21 for 'at least' 10 positive cases... their words, not mine. Their official notification for school closing didn't even give the specific metrics... 'at least' 10 was good enough.
Student, staff and all visitors are masked. I would estimate that all teachers are vaccinated.. (I used to teach there and still have a pulse of the people) I also imagine the student body is anywhere from 50-80% vaccinated based on the number of families I know and how freely and quickly they give out their vax status. Regardless of the exact percentages- every interested body who wants a vax in this community has more than one avenue to get it.
When.. when will this madness end.
I have one son who opted to homeschool, but another son who really was desperate to begin his high school career, even wearing a mask... It pains me to send him off with one, but I wanted to honor his wishes.
I have so many frustrations, upsets... but where I find myself fueled with the most rage- MHS offered a virtual option last year that was not amazing.. but tolerable and allowed my son to complete his academics virtually to avoid the mask and hospitalized setting.. the saving grace of it all- he was able to participate in activities and athletics and maintain some semblance of high school life. The virtual option was eliminated for this year... even though there was a significant part of the population who benefited. No explanation as to why.
And now, here we are. As soon as it is convenient from the school's perspective- virtual is back up and running. Teachers were notified at 2:30 today about the change... all will scramble to get online lessons together for tomorrow at 7:45 am. It is inhumane, embarrassing and ... enraging.
This whole situation you are in is horrible. I commend you for your struggle and I empathize with letting your boy go. I have done the same for mine after he begged me. The difference for me in Jackson is that I know I intimidate them at the Schools & Thd board. They pretty much avoid any chance of a conflict with me and I think other kids maybe benefiting at my sons junior high school. I will continue to fight them at board meetings and with OPRA requests for now.
Thanks for this reply. And please, if you can share any of your 'fighting strategies' I am finally there. My whole life, I've lived by the 'free to be you and me' motto...the school is 'free' to do things its way, I am 'free' to do things mine, BUT after learning of yesterday's EMERGENCY meeting & reading their flimsy parent communications *citing the most embarrassing criteria EVER to justify this whole school quarantine.. well, 'my fight' has finally arrived.
The MSD just proved- this is not a 'free to be you & me' situation where honest, loving hardworking people differ on how to best serve their community- something else is at play here, honestly, I don't even care what it is... I just want to remind them of why they exist in their roles, why they are able to collect their paychecks and make decisions- they are here to serve the most cherished community our Earth has to offer. Our kids need and deserve so much more than they are given. I would love to send out that reminder in any way I can. So please.. anything you share will be appreciated and put to good use! thank you
It is my pleasure to share. There are 2 videos on YouTube under Jackson School Board meetings that I uploaded to show how I put them on notice. Everyone has their own method but I looked them straight in the eyes and let them know that they should be concerned about angry parents who deem them to be a threat.
My first strategy in August was to challenge them on the HIB policy which they are clearly guilty of violating. If you read the BOE policy it directly relates to the children being bullied, Intimidated and harassed. They did not like that. I then followed up later and demanded to know why a complaint was not filed. The principle then formalized my complaint, which was a mistake on his part. They investigated themselves and found themselves not guilty! Shocker. I then filed OPRA requests for all emails and communications. They only produced 2 emails showing them forwarding my own emails. As guilty as it gets. Now I am working on going to the BOE OIG to investigate why the District & Board are not keeping meeting minutes, agenda meeting documents and emails and to demand an Independent Investigator to pursue my HIB complaint.
Basically it comes down to holding them accountable at every level. They are all keeping the parents out of the conversations. We need to inject ourselves. I have begrudgingly told the principles, security heads and the Superintendent that I personally believe them to be child abusers. You cannot abuse my child a little bit. Just like a pedophile cannot molest them a little bit. For personal & political reasons they have all violated their oath’s. If you read the ethics rules you will see that everyone of them who voted for this abuse are each guilty of ethic violations and Deprivation of civil rights by an official. Every single charge is separate and is a felony at each complaint.
So far the result is that every day that goes by that they do not hear from me is a day that they look at my son with his mask below his chin and smile. I am not done yet though and believe me they know it. Next is the Ocean County Director, Sheriff and the County Prosecutor. We will see. Hope this helps.
Wow! First, thank you for this advice and please note, I am going to do my best to remain in your good graces- you are a savage opponent and I love that you are on the side of our children! I often thought the Covid protocols run afoul of HIB laws. Awesome strategy... I will review this guidance and get to work! Many many thanks... please keep me apprised of you fight.. and I will do the same.
No worries my friend and fellow parent. I love my 8 children and will fight to the end for my own and all others. I would love for the educators to just admit their errors and apologize but that doesn’t seem like it will ever happen. Cowards hide and evade accountability. If they would stand up and be honest I am man enough to forgive. For now though they have a problem that will not go away
All the best and feel free to connect for advice or strategy.
I can imagine this will happen a lot. There has been a drop in highschool grades. Highschool kids can't miss intermittent weeks of school randomly. It negatively impacts their learning.
My 6 year old has missed 4 weeks of school due to “close contact”. He never showed any symptoms and he was tested both times so he could go to daycare but not return to school until after his 14 day quarantine. The kids who had Covid were back in school before he was.
same here. My 8 yr old was sent home within weeks of school starting. Home for 14 days because I refused to test him, esp with NO symptoms. The kid who had tested positive was back in school before he was. Go figure
Absolutely zero times. I have voiced my displeasure and filed OPRA requests many times. My boy walks tall with his mask down and they all just look away. They all fear me like a heart attack and for good reason. Everyone needs to hold their ground.
Hello again. First off, please let me know if I am becoming a pain, I just really am not so sure who to turn to with any of this and to be honest- it is pretty much all your fault! This is what your kindness and savvy know how gets you- a sobbing mom messaging you!!! I really am so sorry to bug you, but we just received a voicemail and two emails from the our son's school alerting us that he will need to provide a negative covid test to return to school next week after the virtual shut down. The one email communication is generic.. the other personal- both identify my son as 'maybe coming in contact with Covid... and as an unvaccinated student... (ie)personal medical information the school has no official documentation for... they are assuming health status and requiring protocols for their assumed info. I find it to be very confusing... and very disturbing. If you have any guidance we would be very grateful.
Please do not feel yourself to be a pain. I meant it when I said to reach out. If you would prefer you can email me at Evk110400@zoho.com. With regard to the question. I would not submit to any forced Covid testing. There is not any test that can determine Covid positive results. The tests that are being used are only detecting the common cold and any dead RNA from previous infections.
The schools are abusing this situation and you should maintain a lock tight grip on your parental rights. Also any assumption on their part is simply that. An assumption! I would demand the delivery of a written letter stating that they are putting unconstitutional stipulations in place as a condition of his schooling that he is entitled too. And make them understand that your son is coming to school irrespective of their outrageous actions. If they deny him entry record it and put them on notice.
This will not stop until they are made to stop. Easy for me too say but not as hard as it appears. Stay strong! Your a great mom.
My 6th grader was quarantined 2 occasions within a week from each other. It was "possible "exposure at lunch table. He was forced to stay out of school with no symptoms for a total of 10 days. This reasoning and direction of NJ schools is absurd and makes no sense.
Its insane I wonder how many times each kid will be quarantined this hear.
My 4 year old had to be out 10 days from preschool because of a fever, runny nose and cough. Then she went back for 2 days and got another fever and runny nose. I had to take her for a Covid test or else she would have to be out an additional 10 days. It’s ridiculous and it’s only been common colds.
As of 2:30pm today, Morristown High School (student and staff population est.1600-2000 ppl) shut down in person learning and all extra curricular until Nov. 21 for 'at least' 10 positive cases... their words, not mine. Their official notification for school closing didn't even give the specific metrics... 'at least' 10 was good enough.
Student, staff and all visitors are masked. I would estimate that all teachers are vaccinated.. (I used to teach there and still have a pulse of the people) I also imagine the student body is anywhere from 50-80% vaccinated based on the number of families I know and how freely and quickly they give out their vax status. Regardless of the exact percentages- every interested body who wants a vax in this community has more than one avenue to get it.
When.. when will this madness end.
I have one son who opted to homeschool, but another son who really was desperate to begin his high school career, even wearing a mask... It pains me to send him off with one, but I wanted to honor his wishes.
I have so many frustrations, upsets... but where I find myself fueled with the most rage- MHS offered a virtual option last year that was not amazing.. but tolerable and allowed my son to complete his academics virtually to avoid the mask and hospitalized setting.. the saving grace of it all- he was able to participate in activities and athletics and maintain some semblance of high school life. The virtual option was eliminated for this year... even though there was a significant part of the population who benefited. No explanation as to why.
And now, here we are. As soon as it is convenient from the school's perspective- virtual is back up and running. Teachers were notified at 2:30 today about the change... all will scramble to get online lessons together for tomorrow at 7:45 am. It is inhumane, embarrassing and ... enraging.
This whole situation you are in is horrible. I commend you for your struggle and I empathize with letting your boy go. I have done the same for mine after he begged me. The difference for me in Jackson is that I know I intimidate them at the Schools & Thd board. They pretty much avoid any chance of a conflict with me and I think other kids maybe benefiting at my sons junior high school. I will continue to fight them at board meetings and with OPRA requests for now.
Thanks for this reply. And please, if you can share any of your 'fighting strategies' I am finally there. My whole life, I've lived by the 'free to be you and me' motto...the school is 'free' to do things its way, I am 'free' to do things mine, BUT after learning of yesterday's EMERGENCY meeting & reading their flimsy parent communications *citing the most embarrassing criteria EVER to justify this whole school quarantine.. well, 'my fight' has finally arrived.
The MSD just proved- this is not a 'free to be you & me' situation where honest, loving hardworking people differ on how to best serve their community- something else is at play here, honestly, I don't even care what it is... I just want to remind them of why they exist in their roles, why they are able to collect their paychecks and make decisions- they are here to serve the most cherished community our Earth has to offer. Our kids need and deserve so much more than they are given. I would love to send out that reminder in any way I can. So please.. anything you share will be appreciated and put to good use! thank you
It is my pleasure to share. There are 2 videos on YouTube under Jackson School Board meetings that I uploaded to show how I put them on notice. Everyone has their own method but I looked them straight in the eyes and let them know that they should be concerned about angry parents who deem them to be a threat.
My first strategy in August was to challenge them on the HIB policy which they are clearly guilty of violating. If you read the BOE policy it directly relates to the children being bullied, Intimidated and harassed. They did not like that. I then followed up later and demanded to know why a complaint was not filed. The principle then formalized my complaint, which was a mistake on his part. They investigated themselves and found themselves not guilty! Shocker. I then filed OPRA requests for all emails and communications. They only produced 2 emails showing them forwarding my own emails. As guilty as it gets. Now I am working on going to the BOE OIG to investigate why the District & Board are not keeping meeting minutes, agenda meeting documents and emails and to demand an Independent Investigator to pursue my HIB complaint.
Basically it comes down to holding them accountable at every level. They are all keeping the parents out of the conversations. We need to inject ourselves. I have begrudgingly told the principles, security heads and the Superintendent that I personally believe them to be child abusers. You cannot abuse my child a little bit. Just like a pedophile cannot molest them a little bit. For personal & political reasons they have all violated their oath’s. If you read the ethics rules you will see that everyone of them who voted for this abuse are each guilty of ethic violations and Deprivation of civil rights by an official. Every single charge is separate and is a felony at each complaint.
So far the result is that every day that goes by that they do not hear from me is a day that they look at my son with his mask below his chin and smile. I am not done yet though and believe me they know it. Next is the Ocean County Director, Sheriff and the County Prosecutor. We will see. Hope this helps.
Wow! First, thank you for this advice and please note, I am going to do my best to remain in your good graces- you are a savage opponent and I love that you are on the side of our children! I often thought the Covid protocols run afoul of HIB laws. Awesome strategy... I will review this guidance and get to work! Many many thanks... please keep me apprised of you fight.. and I will do the same.
No worries my friend and fellow parent. I love my 8 children and will fight to the end for my own and all others. I would love for the educators to just admit their errors and apologize but that doesn’t seem like it will ever happen. Cowards hide and evade accountability. If they would stand up and be honest I am man enough to forgive. For now though they have a problem that will not go away
All the best and feel free to connect for advice or strategy.
Thank you so much!
My freshman was in school for 3 weeks and had already had a 10 day quarantine. We chose to withdraw.
I can imagine this will happen a lot. There has been a drop in highschool grades. Highschool kids can't miss intermittent weeks of school randomly. It negatively impacts their learning.
To many times. It’s ridiculous
Its very frustrating and I can't imagine how they can continue to justify this nonsense.
My 6 year old has missed 4 weeks of school due to “close contact”. He never showed any symptoms and he was tested both times so he could go to daycare but not return to school until after his 14 day quarantine. The kids who had Covid were back in school before he was.
These rules make no sense.
same here. My 8 yr old was sent home within weeks of school starting. Home for 14 days because I refused to test him, esp with NO symptoms. The kid who had tested positive was back in school before he was. Go figure